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LStat · Mar 22, 2006, 04:29 PM // 16:29

I've got a lvl20 W/Mo which i love playing and going on random solo killing sprees, but im sure there could be a huge improvement.

My Build:
Swordsmanship= 10 8 + 1 (duelist helm) + 1 (minor sword rune)
Strength= 10 9 + 1 (minor strength rune)
Tactics= 12 11 + 1 (minor tactics rune)
Protection prayers = 7

Equipment:
Duelist helm of minor strenth
Glads. Hauberk of major vigor
Platemail gauntlets of major absorbsion
Glads. leggings of minor swordsmanship
Knights boots of minor tactics
Malinon's shield and IDS of Fortitude (+20)/FDS of Defence (+5)

Skills:
Deadly riposte, Gash, Final Thrust, Glads. defence, Watch yourself, Dolyak, Healing sig. and Vital Blessing as my ench.

I seem to think this is a good build but seem to get my ass kicked if i take on more than 3 hydra's in skyward at once. Any suggestions would be massively appriciated thanks.

sn0w1337 · Mar 22, 2006, 04:59 PM // 16:59

Hundred Blades, galrath slash, final thrust, vigourus spirit, bonetties, mending, breeze, rebirth

Josh · Mar 22, 2006, 05:02 PM // 17:02

Why 'Rebirth'? He's solo.

Just use your current build but replace Gash with Bonetti's Defence.

Toffin · Mar 22, 2006, 05:11 PM // 17:11

Take a look at Dont Feel No Pain Hydra farming... It works wonders, I use his build to help power level fellow guildies.

merciless · Mar 22, 2006, 05:17 PM // 17:17

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Originally Posted by LStat

I seem to think this is a good build but seem to get my ass kicked if i take on more than 3 hydra's in skyward at once. Any suggestions would be massively appriciated thanks.

If you really wanna take out as many hydras as your hearts desire than I suggest you switch to W/Me by doing the Mesmer Quest at Destiny's Gorge. If you've never changed your secondary profession before, you might be thinking, "But I've worked so hard for all of my monks skills!". Don't be alarmed friend, you can switch back to W/Mo anytime for free and without doing any extra quests (Just talk to any of the profession changers in desert outposts).

Once you have changed to W/Me, you must make sure to get Elemental Resistance. Elemental Resistance is a mesmer stance.

"Elemental Resistance - Stance
For 30-78 seconds, you gain +40 Armor against elemental damage, but you lose 24-14 Armor against physical damage."

The skils I use to farm hydras as W/Me:

Cyclone Axe, Evicerate(elite), Executionars Axe, "Watch Yourself!", Dolyak Signet, Elemental Resistance, Healing Signet

Attributes:
15 Axe
10 Strength
Rest into Tactics
Leftovers into Inspiration

If you try this build and have difficulties with it PM me. My game name is Daemon The Purger. TTYL Lunch time at school!

Tictac · Mar 22, 2006, 05:25 PM // 17:25

My advice to Wammo's from a Monk:
Never say things like: "OMGZ F*CKING HEAL ME" "REZ ME REZ ME"
Don't type in all caps.
Don't over-extend from your monks.
Don't aggro more than your group can handle.
Don't think that you are god because you're a wammo.

This advice really goes to everyone but it seems to me that the wammo's among us have the most problems with these things.

Disclaimer: Not all wammo's suck. There are a bunch of good ones that know what they are doing.

wsmcasey · Mar 22, 2006, 05:27 PM // 17:27

Try this out:

Swordsmanship= no points
Strength= around 13(minor strength rune)
Tactics= 16 (superior tactics rune), (ascalon helm from grotto)
smiting prayers= any points left over put here to help balthazars spirit

Equipment:
ascalon helm from grotto with -2 reduction and +1 tactics
Glads. Hauberk w/maj or sup vigor
Platemail gauntlets of major or sup absorbsion

really what ever you like for armor at this point, I prefer higher armor since I already use the ascalon helm, the reduction is universal

Glads. leggings of minor swordsmanship
Knights boots of minor tactics

weapons are fine, if your taking on hydras then I would prefer defense over fortitude since you dont take any degen
Malinon's shield and IDS of Fortitude (+20)/FDS of Defence (+5)

Skills:
watch yourself
glads. defense
risposte
deadly riposte
dolyak sig
shields up! / endure pain / bonetties defense / balance stance, you decide
healing sig
balthazars spirit (as your enchantment)

cast balthazars before fighting.
try aggroing only 1 at first and work up to 6 or 7
use your sword to attack a target to help gain adrenaline, if target dies then switch target and keep swinging.
just before you see the hydra casting his spell to knock you down hit dolyak sig, you wont take much damage, then he walks up and starts hitting you.
use risposte and deadly riposte for a major damage spike, then use glads to finish him off. keep watch yourself up as much as possible or try and time it to use glads defense just as dolyak is wearing off, just try keep one or two of your defenses up at all times. the rispostes do most of the damage, keep using them as they recharge. Play around with it, this works pretty good for me.

elemental resistance probably works good, havent tried it, but you take elemental first, then physical. you need to counter both, and higher armor ratings handle both elemental and physical damage.

$pIrIt $aMan · Mar 22, 2006, 05:30 PM // 17:30

What wrong with ya people

i thought the guy was going to get flamed there's about 1897532854697437643756943756434 posts about wammos builds [i'm so mean right?

wsmcasey · Mar 22, 2006, 05:36 PM // 17:36

I'm not telling him to use the search button, because the search function is down for me at the moment. I'm guessing it's down for everyone. (it comes and goes) we all know that google search as a default sucks arss.

If you don't find something that works here then check out other warrior builds in the build section.

Chilly Ress · Mar 22, 2006, 05:46 PM // 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by LStat

Skills:
Deadly riposte, Gash, Final Thrust, Glads. defence, Watch yourself, Dolyak, Healing sig. and Vital Blessing as my ench.

I seem to think this is a good build but seem to get my ass kicked if i take on more than 3 hydra's in skyward at once. Any suggestions would be massively appriciated thanks.

I dont know exactly what your goal is here, to farm hydrae? If so, I would suggest going as a W/Me with Mantra of flame, glads defense, deadly riposte, galrath slash, final thrust, ether feast, watch yourself, healing signet

Hope it helps

merciless · Mar 22, 2006, 10:00 PM // 22:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by merciless

Once you have changed to W/Me, you must make sure to get Elemental Resistance. Elemental Resistance is a mesmer stance.

"Elemental Resistance - Stance
For 30-78 seconds, you gain +40 Armor against elemental damage, but you lose 24-14 Armor against physical damage."

I totally forgot about of Mantra of Flame... So don't use elemental resistance, instead, bring Mantra of Flame. This way dmg dealt to you in fire will be reduced and you will gain energy every time you get hit with meteor and fireball.

...That is if you are willing to do the easy profession quest to become a mesmer.

Spydergst1 · Mar 22, 2006, 10:52 PM // 22:52

Here is what I use for my W/r

Duelist Helm +1 swordsmanship and Superior vigor rune
Glads. Hauberk of superior absorbtion
Galds. Leggings of superior absorbtion
Stone Fist guantlets of superior strength
Glad. Boots of superior tactics

my shield and sword both have +30 HP to compensate the loos of HP do to the seperior runes.

I would suggest you use something with reguards to healing on the boots insted of tactics.

Absorbtion affects the item its applied to and not the body over all. Therfore since you get hit in the chest and legs more then any other part of the body you should put absorbtion on those piecesof armor.

sn0w1337 · Mar 22, 2006, 11:55 PM // 23:55

sorry didnt see the solo part.

Lord Valkyr · Mar 23, 2006, 02:39 AM // 02:39

I find W/E better than W/Me. Armour of earth > elemental resistance or mantra of flame. You get +48 armour against everything at 9 earth magic, plus its an enchantment so you can use other stances at the same time.

My skill bar for hydras is

Gladiator's Defense, Riposte, Deadly Riposte, Bonettis Defense (for energy), Dolyak Signet, Shield stance, Armour of Earth, Healing Signet.

Chilly Ress · Mar 23, 2006, 03:57 PM // 15:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spydergst1

Here is what I use for my W/r

Duelist Helm +1 swordsmanship and Superior vigor rune
Glads. Hauberk of superior absorbtion
Galds. Leggings of superior absorbtion
Stone Fist guantlets of superior strength
Glad. Boots of superior tactics

my shield and sword both have +30 HP to compensate the loos of HP do to the seperior runes.

I would suggest you use something with reguards to healing on the boots insted of tactics.

Absorbtion affects the item its applied to and not the body over all. Therfore since you get hit in the chest and legs more then any other part of the body you should put absorbtion on those piecesof armor.

I might be wrong but im almost positive, that absorbtion is universal meaning that it affects all of your armor and not just the piece it is applied to. So most likely a waste of 70k for you

Snograt · Mar 24, 2006, 12:07 AM // 00:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chilly Ress

I might be wrong but im almost positive, that absorbtion is universal meaning that it affects all of your armor and not just the piece it is applied to. So most likely a waste of 70k for you

You're positively right!

Absorption and Vigor runes are 'global' in that the one rune affects your entire body. If you have more than one of each, you have wasted your money!

DISCLAIMER: This is one of those "we think this is right but there's no irrefutable proof" issues. Check the item on runes over at guildwiki - the founts of all knowledge there are only 99% certain that this is the case!

Mar 22, 2006, 04:29 PM // 16:29	#1
LStat Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Phoenix Praetorian Profession: E/Me	Kinda New To W/Mo I've got a lvl20 W/Mo which i love playing and going on random solo killing sprees, but im sure there could be a huge improvement. My Build: Swordsmanship= 10 8 + 1 (duelist helm) + 1 (minor sword rune) Strength= 10 9 + 1 (minor strength rune) Tactics= 12 11 + 1 (minor tactics rune) Protection prayers = 7 Equipment: Duelist helm of minor strenth Glads. Hauberk of major vigor Platemail gauntlets of major absorbsion Glads. leggings of minor swordsmanship Knights boots of minor tactics Malinon's shield and IDS of Fortitude (+20)/FDS of Defence (+5) Skills: Deadly riposte, Gash, Final Thrust, Glads. defence, Watch yourself, Dolyak, Healing sig. and Vital Blessing as my ench. I seem to think this is a good build but seem to get my ass kicked if i take on more than 3 hydra's in skyward at once. Any suggestions would be massively appriciated thanks.

Mar 22, 2006, 05:27 PM // 17:27	#7
wsmcasey Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Right behind you. Guild: HeRo Profession: W/Rt	Try this out: Swordsmanship= no points Strength= around 13(minor strength rune) Tactics= 16 (superior tactics rune), (ascalon helm from grotto) smiting prayers= any points left over put here to help balthazars spirit Equipment: ascalon helm from grotto with -2 reduction and +1 tactics Glads. Hauberk w/maj or sup vigor Platemail gauntlets of major or sup absorbsion really what ever you like for armor at this point, I prefer higher armor since I already use the ascalon helm, the reduction is universal Glads. leggings of minor swordsmanship Knights boots of minor tactics weapons are fine, if your taking on hydras then I would prefer defense over fortitude since you dont take any degen Malinon's shield and IDS of Fortitude (+20)/FDS of Defence (+5) Skills: watch yourself glads. defense risposte deadly riposte dolyak sig shields up! / endure pain / bonetties defense / balance stance, you decide healing sig balthazars spirit (as your enchantment) cast balthazars before fighting. try aggroing only 1 at first and work up to 6 or 7 use your sword to attack a target to help gain adrenaline, if target dies then switch target and keep swinging. just before you see the hydra casting his spell to knock you down hit dolyak sig, you wont take much damage, then he walks up and starts hitting you. use risposte and deadly riposte for a major damage spike, then use glads to finish him off. keep watch yourself up as much as possible or try and time it to use glads defense just as dolyak is wearing off, just try keep one or two of your defenses up at all times. the rispostes do most of the damage, keep using them as they recharge. Play around with it, this works pretty good for me. elemental resistance probably works good, havent tried it, but you take elemental first, then physical. you need to counter both, and higher armor ratings handle both elemental and physical damage. Last edited by wsmcasey; Mar 22, 2006 at 05:40 PM // 17:40..

Mar 22, 2006, 10:52 PM // 22:52	#12
Spydergst1 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Chicago Profession: W/R	Absorbtion is in the wrong place Here is what I use for my W/r Duelist Helm +1 swordsmanship and Superior vigor rune Glads. Hauberk of superior absorbtion Galds. Leggings of superior absorbtion Stone Fist guantlets of superior strength Glad. Boots of superior tactics my shield and sword both have +30 HP to compensate the loos of HP do to the seperior runes. I would suggest you use something with reguards to healing on the boots insted of tactics. Absorbtion affects the item its applied to and not the body over all. Therfore since you get hit in the chest and legs more then any other part of the body you should put absorbtion on those piecesof armor.

Mar 22, 2006, 04:59 PM // 16:59	#2
sn0w1337 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Donkey Pops Profession: W/Mo	Hundred Blades, galrath slash, final thrust, vigourus spirit, bonetties, mending, breeze, rebirth

Mar 22, 2006, 05:02 PM // 17:02	#3
Josh Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: England, UK Profession: D/Mo	Why 'Rebirth'? He's solo. Just use your current build but replace Gash with Bonetti's Defence.

Mar 22, 2006, 05:11 PM // 17:11	#4
Toffin Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Camp Rankor Guild: No Diplomacy Only War [nDoW] No Diplomacy Only Slackers [nDoS] Looking for an Alliance. Profession: W/	Take a look at Dont Feel No Pain Hydra farming... It works wonders, I use his build to help power level fellow guildies.

Mar 22, 2006, 05:25 PM // 17:25	#6
Tictac Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Xen of Onslaught [XoO]	My advice to Wammo's from a Monk: Never say things like: "OMGZ F*CKING HEAL ME" "REZ ME REZ ME" Don't type in all caps. Don't over-extend from your monks. Don't aggro more than your group can handle. Don't think that you are god because you're a wammo. This advice really goes to everyone but it seems to me that the wammo's among us have the most problems with these things. Disclaimer: Not all wammo's suck. There are a bunch of good ones that know what they are doing.

Mar 22, 2006, 05:30 PM // 17:30	#8
$pIrIt $aMan Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: at my pc Guild: Greeklords Profession: R/Mo	What wrong with ya people i thought the guy was going to get flamed there's about 1897532854697437643756943756434 posts about wammos builds [i'm so mean right?

Mar 22, 2006, 05:36 PM // 17:36	#9
wsmcasey Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Right behind you. Guild: HeRo Profession: W/Rt	I'm not telling him to use the search button, because the search function is down for me at the moment. I'm guessing it's down for everyone. (it comes and goes) we all know that google search as a default sucks arss. If you don't find something that works here then check out other warrior builds in the build section.

Mar 22, 2006, 11:55 PM // 23:55	#13
sn0w1337 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Donkey Pops Profession: W/Mo	sorry didnt see the solo part.

Mar 23, 2006, 02:39 AM // 02:39	#14
Lord Valkyr Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2006 Profession: N/Mo	I find W/E better than W/Me. Armour of earth > elemental resistance or mantra of flame. You get +48 armour against everything at 9 earth magic, plus its an enchantment so you can use other stances at the same time. My skill bar for hydras is Gladiator's Defense, Riposte, Deadly Riposte, Bonettis Defense (for energy), Dolyak Signet, Shield stance, Armour of Earth, Healing Signet.